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发表时间:2004-12-16 12:11

不服不行



夜色迷离 发表在 投诉&建议 华声论坛 http://bbs.voc.com.cn/forum-66-1.html


我这次真的服了,昨天刚发了几个帖,今天打开一看,哈哈,凡是在华生链接的素材做的边框,全都没法显示了,上面标明要看此图片请到华声来,厉害厉害,我佩服的五体投地,可怜我做的这些帖全都要从头再来,网络上相互链接本是正常,为何你华声的素材(请问有几个素材是你华声的原创)别的网站不能用,而你华声的帖子里的素材有几个不是从别的网站链接来的,这样公平吗?????这难道就是拿来主义,哈哈,但你这种拿来主义未免太霸道了,只准从别人哪拿来,却不想给别人一点点回报,这样的拿来难道不觉得脸红,今天我真的服了!!!!!!!!!!

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回复时间:2004-12-16 13:57
我也觉得奇怪呢?这样有点太霸道了吗?以后再不敢用华声的图片与素材了,免得做白工![em17]

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回复时间:2004-12-16 14:28
:)各位别生气,如今网络盗连成习惯了,这样做不是因为我们小气,也不是存心不让大家连接使用,在本论坛是可以用的。素材帖出来就是提供给大家用的,如果每个人都养成自觉下载使用的习惯的话,我们也不会这样了。请大家换个角度想一想,盗连过多会造成什么后果?会给论坛带来什么影响?大家为何不能设身处地的想想呢?影响到论坛服务器,对于大家来说影响不是更大吗?


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活着,是因为没有找到死的理由..

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回复时间:2004-12-16 14:54
我只用过一次这儿的素材,结果也碰到楼主一样的结果.怕了.

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回复时间:2004-12-16 15:09
妹妹说的极是——我想,不论遇到什么问题,换位思考都是非常重要的。

大家可以想一想,如果大家都在华声上传了图片而到别的论坛发帖,那华声就成了这些论坛免费的图片库。在空间都十分宝贵、拥挤的情况下,哪个论坛愿意做这样的冤大头?大家都抱怨华声太慢、来华声容易死机,就是当冤大头的缘故。华声实在是不堪重负,被逼无奈才这样做的。

尽管我对华声此举也不是完全赞成,但我觉得这样做对原创作者劳动成果的保护来说,还是很有必要的:华声的很多原创帖子(比如梦雪儿的帖子)被别的论坛原封不动抄袭了过去,那抄袭的人竟然还恬不知耻地署上自己的名字,打上“本帖为原创,未经允许,不得转载”的字样,原创作者去说几句话,马上被那论坛封了IP!更有甚者,干脆把华声帖主的ID一并在要转发帖子的论坛注册了,以便于抄袭帖子,沽名叼誉。这都有例证,我在此就不列举了。你说,这不是强盗行为吗?!对这样的人,没点制约办法,怎么能行?

其实,华声采用此种办法,根本的目的并不是为了制约发帖的网友——大家在华声发帖子没有受到任何妨碍就是证明。

解决不显示的问题也很简单,你可以下载了图片去你要转发帖子的那个论坛,再重新上传一下图片换上就可以了……

我刚才说的这一切,并不是在指责楼主和其他任何人。因为我和大家一样,也是一个普通的网友,也有和大家一样的感受。我只是希望我的解释能赢得大家对华声此举的理解……谢谢。

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-12-16 15:31:35编辑过]






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痛苦是生命的航程
我知道
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最好的礼物
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回复时间:2004-12-16 15:42
抄袭这种事我看的太多了,在几个论坛看到我的帖子原封不动的被人家搬走,只是作者的名字换成了人家的,所以现在的我的帖子有一部分都加密了.

但是对于这儿的帖子不能链接不能接受,你们的版主到别处发帖就可以加上链接,为何人家不能加,这不成了只许州官放火不许百姓点灯了吗?其实那个论坛都不喜欢加上别的地方的链接,可是别人都能接受你们这儿确不能.按说大论坛不该如此的小气.
加了链接的帖子再好不能加精,要么被版主改的不能看全,要么封人家的帖子难以接受.

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-12-16 15:47:20编辑过]



隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 15:57
  
  谢谢斑竹耐心的解释,支持你们!支持华声!严禁盗连!

  
  
  




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回复时间:2004-12-16 16:11
我觉得网络就是个共享的平台,是为大家提供学习和交流的地方,特别是bbs更是如此。请问你论坛的素材都是自己的原创吗?一个论坛的好坏是要看这个论坛的人气和发帖的质量。贵论坛看到好帖也不加精,说是做了连接,本人还真是不能理解。

隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 17:37
哈哈
华声准许链接别的网站的图片,却不允许别的网站链接华声的图片,这样公平吗?如果每个帖上的图片都的下载后上传再用(更何况并不是每个人都有上传图片的权力),我想每个网站的服务器都要受不了了,更何况这样就算不上到盗窃了吗?如果华声真是正人君子,也不许华声链接别的网站的图片,这样才公平,不过后果我就不要说了,大家都想得出来。网上资源本来就是用来共享的,如果你们怕别人用,就不要上传到网上,致于转帖,我并不反对,只要注明作者名字就可以啦,更何况以前我倡议反对盗帖的时候,斑竹们表现得都很大度吗?哈哈,如今反而小气了。

隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 17:43

我再说最后一句废话
一个网站的斑竹不应当是只会为网站吹喇叭
这样的斑竹不当也罢
好了
再见了华声,我不会再来给各位添乱了。


隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 18:06
哈哈~偷鸡不着还有理的感觉~~~
哈哈哈~~~




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我知道天空会有乌云
地上也会有沟沟坎坎
所以我对自己说
即使我柔弱
我也要做一道靓丽的彩虹
隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 18:24
大家都冷静一下,坐下来慢慢谈,别这么激动啊




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^ō^我贪财,所以我快乐~~~~~
隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 23:18
不知道为什么那么激动,开心就玩,不开心就不玩,就那么简单。难道你们的贴要一定发这里?

隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-16 23:21
本来不想说话了
但何为偷鸡不着还有理
请问在这里哪个做帖者的图片是自己的
照你这么说大家都是偷鸡贼了
再问一下华声的素材有几个不是从别的网站上传来的
那华生也是偷鸡贼了
还有哪位朋友你做帖的素材都是你自己做的
我想不可能吧
那你也是偷鸡贼了
呜呼
中国就是吹喇叭的人太多
讲实话的人太少了

隐身或者不在线

回复时间:2004-12-17 10:21
  
  华声打开的速度半年前开始,越来越慢了,很多网友提出不满。我们查了很久,没查出原因。后来经过我们仔细地跟踪搜索,发现华声的带宽已经饱和了。为此,我们特意请教天涯、强国等特大型论坛的技术员,他们说,以华声的带宽,足够承载万人在线。带宽资源消耗在哪里呢?我们设计软件对此进行了持续跟踪,终于了解到症结所在。
  
  华声普通会员允许上传的图片为200K,这个体积在各大论坛中不说第一,至少也是前几名了,而且,华声上传、打开图片特别快。很多网站甚至鼓励本论坛网友先在华声上传图片,再链接过去。我们还发现,即使像天涯,其贴图版中的很大一部分图片地址,来源都是华声,这也是为他们管理员所承认了的。
  
  由于华声上传限制较宽,速度快,导致外网链接华声图片过多,用户在外网打开一个含华声图片的帖子,就要从华声调图片,这是要占用华声带宽的。这就直接导致登录华声经常很慢,以致网友怨声载道。
  
  为了解决这个问题,华声2个月前就开始做一些防恶意盗链的措施,但收效甚微。不得已,我们采取全面防止盗链问题。在昨天正式实施后,华声打开速度明显变快。证明措施是有效的。
  
  当然,大家对于外网链接华声图片的严重程度可能还没有一个直观上的了解,在2004-12-17 01:26:34一分钟内我们的记录,所有调用华声图片的网址日志记录就达到了1.5M。

  大家想像一下,如果是在访问高峰期的白天,这个体积会有多大。请记住:这是一分钟的记录日志。

  我把这个日志的前四屏网址发在这里,大家看看:

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回复时间:2004-12-17 10:55

以下是引用柔若彩虹在2004-12-16 18:06:00的发言:
哈哈~偷鸡不着还有理的感觉~~~
哈哈哈~~~

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